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F-80 or F-89: when a shelter needs a fire and life safety director

A shelter building needs an F-89 fire and life safety director (FLSD) when the building calls for one: two-way voice communication, a commercial high-rise, or a hotel with 50 or more sleeping rooms above the ground floor. Otherwise the F-80 coordinator supervises the alarm. Shelter certificates compared has the full list, and the coordinator role zone turns the F-80 side into practice.

Plan ref 7.3Updated October 25, 2026

F-80 and F-89 side by side

F-80 and F-89 from their own FDNY documents (as of October 2026)

PointF-80F-89 (FLSD)
Where required (differs)All homeless shelters, and one-way voice buildings with more than 15 people for more than 30 daysHigh-rise office buildings, hotels, and buildings that chose to install two-way voice systems
On site (differs)At all times; a deputy with an F-80 covers absencesDuring regular business hours
Experience first (differs)No work-experience minimum in the Study Material3 years full-time in listed fields, or 18 months with 6 continuous at one location
Course (differs)School course on the FDNY list; diploma valid 1 year31-hour FLSD course: 20 hours fire, 11 hours non-fire
Computer tests (differs)One: 50 questions, 75 minutesTwo: N-85, 120 questions in 186 minutes; Z-89, 55 questions in 83 minutes
On-site exam (differs)NoneYes, scheduled by personnel the building owner designates
Pass mark (differs)70%70% on each computer test
Valid whereOne location, for that personOne location, for that person
Fees (differs)$25 to apply; renewal $15 every 3 years$25 for each of the two computer tests, $750 on-site exam billed to the building, $25 card fee; renewal $15 every 3 years

Shaded rows marked ≠ are the points where F-80 and F-89 (FLSD) differ.

The F-89 route, for comparison

  1. Meet the experience rule

    Three years of full-time work in firefighting, fire safety or building systems, or 18 months that include six months at one work location.

  2. Finish the 31-hour course

    At a school on the FDNY list for FLSD courses: 20 hours of general topics and fire emergencies, 11 hours of non-fire emergencies.

  3. Pass the N-85 and the Z-89

    Two computer tests at FDNY Headquarters, 186 and 83 minutes, each needing 70%. Passing both earns a Certificate of Completion.

  4. Pass the on-site exam

    Only personnel the building owner designates may schedule it; candidates cannot book their own.

When a coordinator needs both

Some buildings must install a fire alarm system with two-way voice communication. Others choose to. Either way, the coordinator may need an additional F-89. The building will also need a fire and life safety director (Source: Study Material p. 16). Whether your shelter is that building is for its plan and the FDNY to say.

Key takeaways

  1. The F-80 row in the Study Material §1 table reads: homeless shelter not requiring an FLSD.
  2. Two-way voice, a commercial high-rise or a hotel with 50 or more sleeping rooms above ground points to an FLSD.
  3. The F-89 route is longer: experience, a 31-hour course, two computer tests and an on-site exam.
  4. Both are premise-related and renew for $15 every three years, but the F-89 costs more up front: two test fees, a $750 on-site exam and a card fee.

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